Comments on: @greenparty_ie compare @deirdredeburca to @barackobama http://stephenspillane.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/greenparty_ie-compare-deirdredeburca-to-barackobama/ The blog of a Technophile and Political Junkie with too much time on his hands Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:00:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: peter donegan http://stephenspillane.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/greenparty_ie-compare-deirdredeburca-to-barackobama/comment-page-1/#comment-781 peter donegan Wed, 06 May 2009 16:20:23 +0000 http://stephenspillane.com/blog/?p=1389#comment-781 A Chara Dan, I'm following suit and leaving my comment here as well as at Irish Election. You obviously haven't visited mine. If you did you'd know the full story.... here is my comment: Dan sorry mate…. but what was the question I asked in the first place? might I add that if any green party representative had come back to me and said ‘hey peter, how can we help you… ‘ [eh recycling/ garden/ blog me?] I’d have written a post on them and there super dooper recycled posters. Instead I got a bit of a personality :shock: This isn’t about Deidres tweet [or lack of] Its the fact that I cant get an answer [STILL] from the people who act on behalf of the entire THE GREEN PARTY… peter A Chara Dan,

I’m following suit and leaving my comment here as well as at Irish Election. You obviously haven’t visited mine. If you did you’d know the full story…. here is my comment:

Dan

sorry mate…. but what was the question I asked in the first place?

might I add that if any green party representative had come back to me and said ‘hey peter, how can we help you… ‘ [eh recycling/ garden/ blog me?] I’d have written a post on them and there super dooper recycled posters. Instead I got a bit of a personality :shock:

This isn’t about Deidres tweet [or lack of] Its the fact that I cant get an answer [STILL] from the people who act on behalf of the entire THE GREEN PARTY…

peter

]]> By: Stephen http://stephenspillane.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/greenparty_ie-compare-deirdredeburca-to-barackobama/comment-page-1/#comment-770 Stephen Wed, 06 May 2009 11:35:14 +0000 http://stephenspillane.com/blog/?p=1389#comment-770 I still stand by my point. If she cant be bothered using it dont bother. I have had interactions with othe politicans with alot bigger constituencies then Dublin. Take Labour's Susan O'Keefe in North-West for example. To be honest people expect a certain level of web saviness if a candidate is going to use twitter and that fact that she has linked to that post I dont know how many times from her twitter is useless time wasting on her behalf when she could be sending a genuine message. Others can do it, why can't she? I still stand by my point. If she cant be bothered using it dont bother. I have had interactions with othe politicans with alot bigger constituencies then Dublin. Take Labour’s Susan O’Keefe in North-West for example. To be honest people expect a certain level of web saviness if a candidate is going to use twitter and that fact that she has linked to that post I dont know how many times from her twitter is useless time wasting on her behalf when she could be sending a genuine message.

Others can do it, why can’t she?

]]> By: Dan Sullivan http://stephenspillane.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/greenparty_ie-compare-deirdredeburca-to-barackobama/comment-page-1/#comment-769 Dan Sullivan Wed, 06 May 2009 11:29:32 +0000 http://stephenspillane.com/blog/?p=1389#comment-769 Hang on the reason someone joins twitter is whatever the reason they had, not some reason that others have. Her reasons for joining are hers. If she uses in a way that ends up as no good to her then that's her look out. I think her response on her blog is quite fair. http://www.whatistandfor.ie/twitter And I had posted for the general election that sometimes people have unrealistic ideas about the availability that pols have during the 3/4 weeks of the campaign. http://dansullivan.blogspot.com/2007/05/candidates-cant-have-time-for-everyone.html There are plenty of people on twitter who are not there to interact with all and sundry which is one of the reason I presume why you can protect your updates. And I don't see anyone decrying that, nor do I see any having a problem with people sniping about others amongst their own grouping while not allowing them a right of reply. I expect there has been plenty of that around this instance. Fact is that people will use this technology as they do others in a way that fits around them and what their priorities are. The point of an open model for a tool is supposed to be to to let each have their own way of working with it and not seeking after a homogenised 'our way or the highway' approach. I think people need to move beyond condemning anyone who doesn't do as they do. Cries of 'noob' however they are dressed up from a 14 year old playing BF2 is fine but you'd expect better from adults. Or maybe we shouldn't? Hang on the reason someone joins twitter is whatever the reason they had, not some reason that others have. Her reasons for joining are hers. If she uses in a way that ends up as no good to her then that’s her look out. I think her response on her blog is quite fair.

http://www.whatistandfor.ie/twitter

And I had posted for the general election that sometimes people have unrealistic ideas about the availability that pols have during the 3/4 weeks of the campaign.

http://dansullivan.blogspot.com/2007/05/candidates-cant-have-time-for-everyone.html

There are plenty of people on twitter who are not there to interact with all and sundry which is one of the reason I presume why you can protect your updates. And I don’t see anyone decrying that, nor do I see any having a problem with people sniping about others amongst their own grouping while not allowing them a right of reply. I expect there has been plenty of that around this instance.

Fact is that people will use this technology as they do others in a way that fits around them and what their priorities are. The point of an open model for a tool is supposed to be to to let each have their own way of working with it and not seeking after a homogenised ‘our way or the highway’ approach. I think people need to move beyond condemning anyone who doesn’t do as they do. Cries of ‘noob’ however they are dressed up from a 14 year old playing BF2 is fine but you’d expect better from adults. Or maybe we shouldn’t?

]]> By: Stephen http://stephenspillane.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/greenparty_ie-compare-deirdredeburca-to-barackobama/comment-page-1/#comment-767 Stephen Wed, 06 May 2009 10:45:25 +0000 http://stephenspillane.com/blog/?p=1389#comment-767 Dan, Im not juging her entire performance. The reason a politician uses Twitter/Blogs/FB etc is to connect with people they might not meet or re-inforce contacts with people they do meet. Why join it if your going to ignore the people on it? Dan, Im not juging her entire performance. The reason a politician uses Twitter/Blogs/FB etc is to connect with people they might not meet or re-inforce contacts with people they do meet. Why join it if your going to ignore the people on it?

]]> By: Dan Sullivan http://stephenspillane.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/greenparty_ie-compare-deirdredeburca-to-barackobama/comment-page-1/#comment-748 Dan Sullivan Tue, 05 May 2009 23:01:55 +0000 http://stephenspillane.com/blog/?p=1389#comment-748 But Stephen why judge her performance before the campaign is over, or at this stage barely begun? It's entirely up to her the degree to which she finds herself able to interact with people twitter or whatever. I also think that some of the reactions that some newbies meet in twitter, blogging etc in Ireland (and elsewhere) would put anyone off. You know there are times when the behaviour of some of the technorati in Ireland remind me of the worst of the gaelgoiri. But Stephen why judge her performance before the campaign is over, or at this stage barely begun? It’s entirely up to her the degree to which she finds herself able to interact with people twitter or whatever. I also think that some of the reactions that some newbies meet in twitter, blogging etc in Ireland (and elsewhere) would put anyone off.

You know there are times when the behaviour of some of the technorati in Ireland remind me of the worst of the gaelgoiri.

]]> By: Stephen http://stephenspillane.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/greenparty_ie-compare-deirdredeburca-to-barackobama/comment-page-1/#comment-742 Stephen Tue, 05 May 2009 20:14:41 +0000 http://stephenspillane.com/blog/?p=1389#comment-742 But Celtic Donkey, if you are going to use twitter and then ignore possible constituents on twitter. Why be on it? But Celtic Donkey, if you are going to use twitter and then ignore possible constituents on twitter. Why be on it?

]]> By: Stephen http://stephenspillane.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/greenparty_ie-compare-deirdredeburca-to-barackobama/comment-page-1/#comment-741 Stephen Tue, 05 May 2009 20:12:39 +0000 http://stephenspillane.com/blog/?p=1389#comment-741 Dan, whats the point in reaching out if you dont interact? She says she is going to respond to tweets on the blog, but she hasnt. While on one point I agree with time etc, but other MEP candidates have interacted with me, even ones not in my constituency! So why should she be different? Dan, whats the point in reaching out if you dont interact? She says she is going to respond to tweets on the blog, but she hasnt. While on one point I agree with time etc, but other MEP candidates have interacted with me, even ones not in my constituency! So why should she be different?

]]> By: Celtic donkey http://stephenspillane.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/greenparty_ie-compare-deirdredeburca-to-barackobama/comment-page-1/#comment-740 Celtic donkey Tue, 05 May 2009 19:04:03 +0000 http://stephenspillane.com/blog/?p=1389#comment-740 I mean at the expense of the minority, not generally. Obviously politicans have to do lots of pandering. I mean at the expense of the minority, not generally. Obviously politicans have to do lots of pandering.

]]> By: Celtic donkey http://stephenspillane.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/greenparty_ie-compare-deirdredeburca-to-barackobama/comment-page-1/#comment-739 Celtic donkey Tue, 05 May 2009 19:03:41 +0000 http://stephenspillane.com/blog/?p=1389#comment-739 For once I do agree with Dan on this - and, let's not forget, bloggers though we are, that a large majority of constituents do not use Twitter. Why should she pander to the minority? For once I do agree with Dan on this – and, let’s not forget, bloggers though we are, that a large majority of constituents do not use Twitter. Why should she pander to the minority?

]]> By: Dan Sullivan http://stephenspillane.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/greenparty_ie-compare-deirdredeburca-to-barackobama/comment-page-1/#comment-729 Dan Sullivan Tue, 05 May 2009 12:55:37 +0000 http://stephenspillane.com/blog/?p=1389#comment-729 that would be "what" not "was" in the first line. (almost a Don Was reference there too!) that would be “what” not “was” in the first line. (almost a Don Was reference there too!)

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